Hi, Shrewd!        Login  
Shrewd'm.com 
A merry & shrewd investing community
Best Of PoliticsBest OfAll BoardsThe Shrewd’m WeeklyLearn to InvestHow to Become Shrewd
Search
Shrewd'm.com Merry shrewd investors
Search
Best Of PoliticsBest OfAll BoardsThe Shrewd’m WeeklyLearn to InvestHow to Become Shrewd


The week's question
In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
Answer this questionContinue to Shrewd'mThis note won't appear again
Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy
Unthreaded | Threaded | Whole Thread (29) |
Author: sheila727   😊 😞
Number: of 84360 
Subject: Re: Joe's Garage Sale
Date: 01/22/23 10:23 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Report Post | Recommend It!
No. of Recommendations: 1
Love how you are trying to minimize the fact Biden had classified documents strewn
haphazardly, here there everywhere while Trump did not.


Are you purposefully, consciously switching the realities, or do you simply accept whatever lies you're fed? Trump had an incredible number of document-filled cartons, some that mixed personal and classified items....including more than 300 documents marked classified. And he had personally instructed these documents to be taken to Mar-a Lago, even though the White House attorney had carefully informed everyone multiple times about the rules governing the handling of documents. When the National Archives began requesting the documents, Trump's people repeatedly insisted they didn't have any. And then once documents were finally handed over, it was only a very partial selection. Trump kept denying he had more. In addition, the boxes were stored haphazardly all over Mar-a-Lago.....in storage facilities, in his private office, at the golf club. And if I recall correctly, at one of his other golf clubs in that area. I've also discovered this tidbit from a recent NYT article: "At one point, as Mr. Trump sought National Archives documents related to the investigation into whether his 2016 campaign conspired with Russian officials, he proposed that his lawyers suggest a trade with the agency: what he sought in exchange for the documents he had."

FBI etc knew Trump had documents in a secure locked location while Biden did not.
Apparently FBI etc was not aware Biden had classified documents strewed all over in unsafe locations.


The FBI knew the locations of documents only after they were ordered to search for the documents that Trump kept denying he had. And the point was emphasized that the locations were anything but secure, and some not locked.

Trump, a sitting President had the authority to declassified documents while Biden, then a VP did not have any authority to declassify anything.

That doesn't mean Trump could have declassified documents with potentially dangerous impact, such as the documents he had concerning nucler resources.

Trump's crime? He did not turn over the documents in the allotted time line.

Where have you been living? His crime was the sequence of events that began with taking documents he knew he had no right to take, then denying to Archives that he'd taken anything, then finally....when he had nowhere to turn...giving up a small amount of what he'd taken, saying it was everything he'd taken....and resisting in every way he could giving the rest, storing things carelessly....etc etc etc.

Biden's crime?....Well, let's wait and see what documents he had that may tie in with Hunter, money laundering, China deals and who knows what more.

Wow....that's an enormous load for that minimal number of documents, some dating back to his senatorial years. His VEEP office was packed up and cleared out when he was out of the country, finalizing his responsibilities. And given the fact that the moment they were discovered, the Archives were informed. Biden's people have been fully transparent and cooperative, unlike someone else we know of.

I wish we were able to know how often this has happened accidentally over the years and the administrations.
Post New | Post Reply | Report Post | Recommend It!
Print the post
Members reply directly to sheila727 here — and replies get answered. Reading is free; so is joining the conversation. Join Shrewd'm »
This community has written 84,309 posts about US Policy. The article-length ones it recommended most:
It's going to get worse · 33 recs · 2025
G’day Donny · 30 recs · 2026
Old Related Story · 28 recs · 2026
HCR is a national treasure · 27 recs · 2025
Fascism in America · 27 recs · 2025
Unthreaded | Threaded | Whole Thread (29) |


Announcements
US Policy FAQ
Contact Shrewd'm
Contact the developer of these message boards.

Best Of Politics | Best Of | Favourites & Replies | All Boards | Followed Shrewds | Open Questions | Moving a community