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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Project 2025...
Date: 06/26/2024 4:29 PM
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PTHE: Because in practice, the vast majority of Federal employees are honest, hard working people doing the job they were hired to do no matter who is President or who is in charge of the House or Senate.

DOPE:Most are. However, we also have the shining example of the Pentagon's procurement process, which is bloated and in dire need of reform in both the military and civilian ranks.

Me: Dope jumps from general Federal employees to the Pentagon procurement process. Reform in a process is no reflection on the employees. Every 15 to 20 years a process needs to be streamlined, but who has the authority to do that? Not the rank and file employee. So then, exactly what are you saying that has to do with rank and file employees? Nada, bupkiss. Old story of the private that takes notes on what needs to be changed and when he finally gets promoted to a General position where he can effect change, he takes out his notebooks and everything has changed and is different.

DOPER
I'd also hope that we would agree that politicized prosecutions and flagrant civil rights violations should result in termination.


Me: Nice glittering generality, but NO, NO, NO. We don't agree on what are politicized prosecutions *OR* flagrant civil right violations because you take your cues from Trumpolina, not the law or honest rational thought.

Pthe: The stated goal of the Heritage Foundation in eliminating schedule F is to replace the current government work force with people whose main qualification is loyalty to the President rather than competency for the job.

Doperooni: No, that's your interpretation. The goal is to remove people who are democrat party loyalists and replace them with the people you mention in your first paragraph.

Heritage F: But this is not about Trump. Those of us who have worked in past Republican administrations know the reluctance of federal bureaucrats to go along with conservative policy didn’t start with Trump – nor will it end with him. It’s no surprise that the surrounding suburbs in Virginia and Maryland are all deeply blue, while the District of Columbia itself voted 95% Democrat in the last presidential election.

Trump’s first impeachment, for example, came from the swamp, and there were many anecdotes about how often and how brazenly members of the bureaucracy simply told political appointees trying to implement his agenda, “No, we’re not doing that.”

Me: But that isn't what happens, there are things called laws, enacted by Congress, and the bureaucracy has to interpret and implement them. So, when someone comes in and says do it this way, and it violates the law, or interferes with how the law is being administered, the bureaucrat will say, "That will violate the law, or that runs a high risk of violating the law, and I know that, and the department knows that, so if you can give me a way to accomplish what you want accomplished without violating the law, I'd be happy to do that."

To do this rogue Conservatives make up interpretations of the law such as - that Mike Pence can stop the electoral count, question/reject the slate of electors certified from a state, accept a different uncertified slate of electors and continue the count. The is the law according to Roger Stone, a noted Constitutional scholar.

Or the Unified Executive Theory - give an outright lie a good sounding name so that the President has authoritarian powers.

Sch F gives the person coming in the ability to say. "Do this or your fired".




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