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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Qatar air force base on American soil
Date: 10/13/25 12:43 PM
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That's why only Trump could cut this deal. It lets the other countries in the region sign off, because Israel isn't getting Gaza. It lets Israel sign off, because the Palestinians aren't getting Gaza. The ones who will be actually running Gaza are a collection of non-democratic nations - monarchies and authoritarian states - that Israel will soon have security agreements with. Again, a win-win-win for everyone except the Palestinian people, who are likely to now be forever occupied...just by someone other than Israel.

And...?

The Palestinians bet on the wrong horse in 1948 and have been doubling down on that bad bet ever since.

If you folks have learned nothing about Trump after all this time you should know that Trump doesn't give a crap what people think about him - if he did, he'd spend his days and nights weeping. But he doesn't. That allows him to pursue some of the most ruthlessly pragmatic policies one can pursue because he's effectively mentally liberated from certain "niceties".

Such as the "nicety" of mouthing the words, "The Palestinians deserve their own democratic state". No...they don't. At least not yet. 87 years of supporting warfare and terrorism have earned them this "peace council".

Do you know where a lot of the hostages were kept? With families of "ordinary" Gazans. What does that tell you about the mindset of the average ordinary person there? Ever see any of their version of Schoolhouse Rock? While we learned Conjunction junction, what's your function? they learned that Jews are rats and that blowing all of them up was the highest moral plane one could reach.

We tend to look at the world through our Western political/cultural lens; Iraq and Afghanistan should have taught us that doesn't always work. It's going to take decades for them to learn to love life more than they hate Israel.

Is this plan morally perfect? No. But does it need to be? Also no. Rome wasn't built in a day and the Palestinians aren't going to fixed in one day either.
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