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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Subject: Re: King Schumer Caves
Date: 11/07/25 4:47 PM
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I asked you to find me King Schumer's actual proposal. After you claimed you could not find anything from Schumer constituting a proposal before today.

So, taste your own medicine: Find Schumer's actual proposal in response to the clean C.R. proposed by the Republicans, and link to it.


I never said he made one, prior to today. I didn't start a brand new thread criticizing Schumer for abandoning his prior proposal. I didn't make a post calculating to four decimal places the exact degree to which he backed down from a prior proposal.

You're the one who made the claim. I'm asking you to provide the basis for the claim that you made.

As for what Democrats wanted, it's been no secret - at all - that they were demanding the ACA subsidies to be extended. That's what they've been saying this whole time. If you want a link, here's one of the first ones on Fox News (I tried to find a source you might accept as credible) from a few weeks ago, specifically describing how the Democrats were making Obamacare subsidies the demand for passing the CR:

So Democrats have pleaded with Republicans to subsidize Obamacare to defray looming price increases. Obamacare subsidies and the government shutdown aren’t directly connected. But Democrats believed they could link the two. And then, after people snored off to sleep about the government shutdown on Oct. 1, they were rudely awakened by a notice in the mail that their healthcare premiums were about to jump.

Say what you will about the tactics, but it was a shrewd strategy by Democrats to seize on an issue important to their base. Moreover, it gave the party the opportunity to show voters that it’s "fighting" against President Donald Trump. That’s something which didn’t happen in the March funding round. In fact, the Democrats’ lack of fighting is what set a match to an internecine fight among Democrats about how to combat the president. The public and the government are absorbing the flames of that internal conflagration now, but Democrats may have found a way to salve those wounds.

"Fighting for healthcare is our defining issue," said House Minority Whip Katherine Clark, D-Mass., in an exclusive sit-down interview with Fox News. "Shutdowns are terrible and there will be families that are going to suffer. We take that responsibility very seriously. But it is one of the few leverage times we have."


foxnews.com - Reporters notebook government shutdown stalls democrats demand obamacare subsidy extension

I mean, it's right there in the headline: "Government shutdown stalls as Democrats demand Obamacare subsidy extension."

You're the one who seems to think it was something else. So again, I ask - what's the proposal that you think the Democrats really wanted, that led you to the $1.5 trillion figure?
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