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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Subject: Re: Send in the National Guard!
Date: 08/14/25 3:29 PM
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Got to say, you lost me there. Is there an anecdote available?

Sure. As an anecdote, here's an NPR article with SF Mayor London Breed discussing the public disorder in parts of that city:

Breed announced an "emergency declaration" for the area last month saying drug deaths, open-air drug dealing, street chaos and violence there had gotten "totally out of control." She vowed "tough love" for those who break the law and expanded access to help for those with alcohol and substance use disorders.

npr.org - San francisco mayor homelessness tenderloin district

Sounds like the well-known broken window theory, but that is different than your original point (feelings not facts matter).

My original point was not "feelings not facts matter." Rather, it's that voter concerns about social disorder were supported by facts. That they were encountering real negative events in the parts of the city that they go to, and that their perceptions of the lack of social order in these spaces were both legitimate and not disproven by city-wide crime statistics on major offense.

This is not the broken window theory, which is an argument that the presence of minor crime in an area can cause more significant crime. Rather, it's that the minor crime (or non criminal anti-social behavior) is itself bad. That it's a problem if people are engaging in open drug use on the streets in front of passers-by even if that's not going to lead to anyone getting murdered. Because the open drug use itself is unpleasant and diminishes other people's use of the public areas. And it legitimately causes them to be apprehensive in those spaces and restrict their uses of them.
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