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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/21/2023 11:25 AM
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Eagle Pass crisis: Biden administration sends 800 troops to help as 10,000 migrants cross over in 24 hour period
An estimated 4,000 migrants arrived in Eagle Pass, Texas, on Wednesday
Homeland Security has sent 800 troops to help the Texas National Guard
Greg Abbott slammed Biden for creating the crisis yesterday
Since January, Biden has granted work permits to nearly 500,000 Venezuelan migrants

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12543161/...

EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: Up to 3K Migrants Poised to Cross into Texas Border Town

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2023/09/20/exclus...

Well....It is what the dems and liberals wanted. They voted for Biden and am glad the illegals are all headed to the sanctuary cities and states where they will increase the democrat voter base.

Pity though conservatives living in democrat run states and cities did not ask for this and are suffering as a result.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/21/2023 1:09 PM
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Rubbish. Non-citizens can't vote. If they can't even get that basic fact correct, what are the odds they got anything else right?

Garbage in, garbage out. Breitbart is garbage. So is Daily Mail.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/21/2023 1:55 PM
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Rubbish. Non-citizens can't vote. If they can't even get that basic fact correct, what are the odds they got anything else right?

Garbage in, garbage out. Breitbart is garbage. So is Daily Mail.


HoHum....The illegals are already getting driver licenses

'How To Obtain A Driver's License If You Are Undocumented'

https://unitedwedream.org/how-to-obtain-a-drivers-...

Undocumented immigrants can get licenses. ICE can get their data.

https://publicintegrity.org/inequality-poverty-opp...

'Registering online is easy, safe, and secure

You can register to vote online or by mail up to 20 days before the election. If you have a valid State of Wisconsin Driver License or State of Wisconsin ID card issued by the Wisconsin Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) you can register to vote online at MyVote. If you prefer to register in-person you can register in-person in your municipal clerk's office up until the Friday before the election or at your polling place on Election

https://elections.wi.gov/Register

I'm sure other states have similar ruling.
Biden and the left will surely wave all what one must do to become a citizen of the U S, since laws, rules and regulations means nothing to them.

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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/21/2023 2:26 PM
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Rubbish again.

If you spent even a moment checking, you would realize that green card holders (legal) can get driver's licenses, but still cannot vote. There are safeguards in place. It varies by state, of course. The first hit I got was MA.

And Biden can't change that. It's in the Constitution. And, unlike his predecessor, he doesn't try to rule by executive order (which would get struck down instantly, in this case).
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/21/2023 2:29 PM
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'California city considers granting illegal immigrants the right to vote'

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/california-city-c...

'Noncitizen suffrage in local elections
As of June 2023, the District of Columbia and municipalities in three states allowed noncitizens to vote in some or all local elections: California, Maryland, and Vermont.

Joshua A. Douglas, associate professor of law at the University of Kentucky College of Law, published an article in 2017 stating, "Municipalities can expand voting rights in local elections if there are no explicit state constitutional or legislative impediments and so long as local jurisdictions have the power of home rule." Some states, for example, require that changes to local charters get approval from state legislatures, thereby limiting municipal authority over voter eligibility laws, whereas other states do not.[7]

Douglas identified 14 states'including California and Maryland'as posing no clear impediments to municipalities passing their own voter qualification laws:'

https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizen...

Yep, the ball is rolling, I'm sure it won't be long before Biden will will do all he can to have illegal aliens vote in local, state and Federal elections.

You all come now, Biden and the left need your vote.

Watch FOX NOW, they are reporting the open border tsunami..
Real new in, left wing garbage out.

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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/21/2023 2:32 PM
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And Biden can't change that. It's in the Constitution.

Since when did Biden and the left care about what the Constitution says?
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/21/2023 2:41 PM
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Again, Biden doesn't (and can't) rule by executive order. So he really has little to say about it. It would be a very involved process, and people on both sides of the aisle would be opposed. It would never pass.

CA or MA or WI or KY can do whatever they like in their local elections. Federal is a whole 'nuther ball game.

Now, that said, do I agree with giving undocumented immigrants driver's licenses? No. But that's a different topic.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/21/2023 2:48 PM
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Since when did Biden and the left care about what the Constitution says?

They may not have a perfect record, but in general they appear to care more than the right does.

But I should clarify a previous statement. Most of the bits about voting are after the Civil War. The 15th gave black people the right, the 19th gave women the right, the 24th prohibited poll taxes, and the 26th lowered the age to 18. It was left to states -mostly- to run elections. However, the wording of the 15th says "the right of citizens to vote...", which indicates that non-citizens don't have that right.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/21/2023 3:07 PM
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CA or MA or WI or KY can do whatever they like in their local elections. Federal is a whole 'nuther ball game.

For how long? Biden is already doing what he wants pertaining to the border.
Biden will do whatever he can to change the election laws.
As of this moment illegals are crossing the border by the thousands.
Watch FOXNews for yourself and finally see what is really happening at the border
your news sources do not report on.
It's nonstop stream of migrants crossing the border into the US.
The cameras cannot lie, but Biden and the left does.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/21/2023 3:34 PM
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Cameras don't lie, but the people using the footage do.

I prefer actual data. Which is available if you care to look for it (we've already done that for you several times).

They have been, are now, and will ever continue to be risking their lives to cross the border. It has ever been so. That's not to say I like it. It's just a fact. At least 70 years now (longer than I've been alive). At first they actually had some sort of migrant worker system (forget what it was called), but that changed maybe 50 years ago(??). Sano actually knows more about that than I do.

But it's been a constant stream, only interrupted a few times by major events (recession of 2008, COVID, etc). Until lawmakers start talking seriously about the border, instead of just delivering rhetoric, there's no point in worrying about it because nothing will change. Penalize any employers severely if they hire undocumented workers. That's pretty much the only thing that will stop, or at least slow down, the flow. Neither side of the aisle seems to like that idea.

I'm in a border state (AZ). I know what is going on. I know a few places I could drive to right now to pick up some day-laborers. The problem is not invisible to me. But all I hear is one-liners and rhetoric; nothing serious from anyone in a position to do anything.

That commie news source I use just published a piece about how the migrants are being exploited, specifically child labor...in this country. And they even refer to the border as "broken". Because they're a reliable source.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/19/briefing/child-...

Unaccompanied minors, Perdue and Tyson hiring migrant children, etc.

But can we get comprehensive immigration reform?? Nooooooo... The Republicans can't be seen talking to Democrats anymore, and so they resort to simplistic rhetoric ("build the wall") without any real change to how we do the policy. They can't give a Democrat administration anything resembling a win on this issue, and when they're in office they do very little.

As long as there is opportunity here, they will come. Especially when (for example, Venezuela) economies collapse.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/21/2023 4:09 PM
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But can we get comprehensive immigration reform?? Nooooooo... The Republicans can't be seen talking to Democrats anymore, and so they resort to simplistic rhetoric ("build the wall") without any real change to how we do the policy. They can't give a Democrat administration anything resembling a win on this issue, and when they're in office they do very little.

As long as there is opportunity here, they will come. Especially when (for example, Venezuela) economies collapse.


I cannot access your link, must pay to read.

Let's stop right here....'can we get comprehensive immigration reform?'

Who is letting illegal aliens in our country by the thousands every week, millions over the course of months? How can the Border Patrol/Agents etc have any control for an orderly and legal passage into the US?

Don't blame Republicans, blame Biden and his administration for this 'you all come'....
like right now.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/21/2023 5:08 PM
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Yeah, I thought you wouldn't be able to access it. That's why I provided a very brief summary without risking violating copyright (i.e. copy/paste too much).

I blame BOTH sides of the aisle, because neither is talking seriously about immigration reform in real terms. At most they pay lip-service to it. Mostly it's nonsense one-liners. I don't take either side seriously. I think it has been over a decade since anyone even proposed some serious legislation, but it got bogged down and went nowhere. There may have been policy differences, but mostly it was because the Republicans didn't want Obama to be able to claim another win. So immigration reform was flushed without much discussion.

And we aren't "letting" aliens into the country. We -as has been the case for a long time- catch and return what we can. We deport thousands every week. In fact, if you check, deportations are UP from this same period last year. 85000 just since title 42 was lifted (and that was reported in July...the number is undoubtedly larger now in September).

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden...
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/21/2023 5:35 PM
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At first they actually had some sort of migrant worker system (forget what it was called), but that changed maybe 50 years ago(??). Sano actually knows more about that than I do.

I think you're referring to the BRACERO programs that started during WW2 to facilitate Mexican laborers crossing over to do necessary manual labor while Americans were overseas fighting the Axis.

In 1952 The Immigration and Nationality Act INA) of 1952 and H2 programs were passed to deal with problems faced by immigrant labor. Big employers did not, and still object to formal programs because it makes it more likely they will be required to be less abusive of labor.

1poorguy is correct. The big employers know 'the wall' is just a culture warrior rallying cry. They know walls will never work because walls have never has worked unless they have manned machine gun emplacements with overlapping fields of fire and instructions to fire at will. (Berlin wall, Korean DMZ, etc). Big ag knows how their bread is buttered.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/21/2023 6:17 PM
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And we aren't "letting" aliens into the country. We -as has been the case for a long time- catch and return what we can. We deport thousands every week. In fact, if you check, deportations are UP from this same period last year. 85000 just since title 42 was lifted (and that was reported in July...the number is undoubtedly larger now in September).

NBCnews? you gotta be kidding me, home of 'morning joe' and mika and other liars?
You complain of my choice of news outlets?

Deport thousands every week? Big deal. What about the millions already here since Biden took office?

Eagle Pass Texas is under state of emergency right now at this very moment.

https://fox2now.com/news/border-report/eagle-pass-...

Biden Administration to Grant Legal Status to Nearly Half-a-Million Venezuelan Immigrants

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/biden-administ...

You may live in a border state, I'm guessing though in a remote part of the state and don't have a clue what is actually going on in your own state let along Texas and other border states.

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Author: very stable genius   😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/22/2023 9:52 AM
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OMG a Tsunami?!
Why don't the republicans in congress work on some immigration reform instead of trying to pass bills that protect gas stoves?
They could use Georgias HB 87 anti-immigrant bill as a template. (I'm sure todays far-right SCOTUS would give it a thumbs up!)
Of course then they couldn't use fear and hate (southern strategy variation) to control the simpletons that make up the GOP voting base...
Oh well!
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/22/2023 11:22 AM
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Why don't the republicans in congress work on some immigration reform instead of trying to pass bills that protect gas stoves?

Sorry you are not informed as to what is happening in the real world and our southern border. Biden opened the Flood Gates for illegals to enter for his freebies and handouts, not Republicans.

Plain and simple, tell Biden to secure the border.

https://www.heritage.org/homeland-security/comment...
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Author: WiltonKnight   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/22/2023 1:56 PM
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WOW.

Liberals hate immigrants *and* love gas stoves.

Go figure.

No surprise really.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/24/2023 12:59 PM
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I'm not going to do the legwork for you. If you don't care to inform yourself, that's on you. The data is out there. And you don't have to rely on hysterical sites.

If you care to look, I'll give you a start here: https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/nationwide-enco...

Notice the black line? Sharply up. Check the CBP dashboard (linked on their site), and you'll see breakdowns for Title8 and Title42.

Yeah...Phoenix is really remote...the "now entering" and "now leaving" in Phoenix is on the same sign. (sheesh)
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/24/2023 1:46 PM
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'Nationwide Encounters'

'en·coun·ter
/inˈkoun(t)ər,enˈkoun(t)ər/
verb
unexpectedly experience or be faced with (something difficult or hostile).
"we have encountered one small problem"
Similar:
experience'


Yeah...Phoenix is really remote...the "now entering" and "now leaving" in Phoenix is on the same sign. (sheesh)

Now leaving? leaving where? They are leaving to go to another American city or state, not back to Mexico and to the country of their origin.

Face the fact since Biden took office millions and millions of illegal aliens have entered America and are being taken care of by the American taxpayer.

'Illegal border crossings rose by 33% in July, fueled by increase along Arizona desert'

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-us-mexico...

Vote democrat because Biden says so..Biden needs more illegals aliens who will eventually become democrat voters and live in the Land of the Freebies.






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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Illegal Alien Tsunami Coming To Your Town
Date: 09/24/2023 2:04 PM
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Face the fact since Biden took office millions and millions of illegal aliens have entered America and are being taken care of by the American taxpayer.

Sure...and from 2016 to 2019, millions crossed then, also. (I exclude 2020, which is also a Trump year, because COVID was a disruptive event that was atypical.)

Name any POTUS for the past 40 years, and millions will have crossed during his tenure. This is not a new problem. The economic prosperity of the north (e.g. USA) is a magnet for people in desperate poverty in the south (Central and South America). That has been true no matter which party is in control, and will continue to be until we get immigration reform with some teeth.

And you picked the wrong definition of "encounter" as it was used in the data. You picked the verb. In this context, "encounter" is a noun. And if you bothered to dig deeper, you would realize that a lot of those encounters resulted in expulsion. I suspect the vast majority of encounters result in expulsion, actually. It appears you don't really want to know the facts, you just want something to confirm your biases.

As for freebies, that's up to the states. They don't get any freebies from the feds. In fact, they often use fake SS numbers to get jobs, and then pay into a system (social security and Medicare) from which they will never receive benefits. If CA wants to give them aid, that's on CA. If you live in CA, complain to your legislator.

Barring amnesty, they will never become voters at all (Dem or Rep). If caught, they will be deported.
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