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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: commonone   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: This can't be "it"
Date: 01/24/24 7:43 AM
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Umm: To be fair, Pence did something great for the country that Harris will never do:

Stick up for rule of law and democracy when the insurrectionists were trying to overturn a fair and legal election.


Well, there are two sides to every coin. Initially, Pence tried to comply with Trump's directive but everyone he asked if he could stop the count as advised by Trump and John Eastman told him it was impossible, illegal, or unconstitutional. His chief counsel, Greg Jacob, told Pence he'd likely find himself in legal jeopardy if he followed Eastman's advice. Others also warned Pence off the scheme. So Pence tried to do what Trump told him to do but didn't want to risk ending up in prison.

Where Pence gets full credit and extra points is by his refusal to leave the Capitol on January 6 when the insurrection was underway, after he, his wife and daughter had been whisked out of the House chamber and the mob was screaming "Hang Mike Pence!" Had he left, had the secret service moved him to some location where he could not return that night, who knows what might have happened.

Would Trump still have called off the mob? Doubtful.

Would Trump have claimed a Constitutional crisis? Likely.

Would Trump have declared martial law? Probably.

Would Trump have insisted he stay in power until the situation was resolved? Youbetcha'.

So, yeah, Pence did something Harris nor any other vice president likely will ever do again: Stick up for rule of law and democracy (against the direct advice of his own president) when the insurrectionists (sent to stop the electoral vote count by the President of the United States) were trying to overturn a fair and legal election.
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