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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/27/2025 10:23 PM
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.... spread hatred and division among Americans.

Elon said 'get over it.'
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/musk-tells-ge...

King Charles warns of increasing antisemitism on Holocaust Remembrance Day.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/king-charles-...
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Author: WiltonKnight   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 7:48 AM
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I share the same level of concern as Liberal college administrators and Presidents.

And the same level of outrage liberals here expressed at said protests and university inaction.

In other words....

Flip a coin for me, it really doesn't matter.
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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 8:00 AM
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Trump visited a Trump Organization property on 428 (nearly one in three) of the 1,461 days of his first presidential term and is estimated to have played 261 rounds of golf.
Trump's golf trips cost American taxpayers approximately $142 million, with $59 million spent on trips to Mar-a-Lago alone.

Presidents should not be wasting time playing golf...
"Obama plays more golf than any human being in America, and I'm not sure that's good for the President." ~Trump
"Barack Obama played golf yesterday. Now he heads to vacation in Martha's Vineyard. Nice work ethic." ~Trump
"Obama doesn't have enough time to convince Congress to do it. This guy plays more golf than people on the PGA Tour." ~Trump
"When I am President, I'm going to be working for you, I'm not going to have time to go play golf." ~Trump
Trump ended up golfing significantly more than Obama. By May 2020, Trump played 261 rounds of golf, compared to Obama's 98 rounds through a similar point in his presidency.

The folks at trumpgolftrack are tracking how many days the lazy-rapist wastes playing golf instead of working for the American people.
So far in 2025 he has spent 28% of his time golfing, while American taxpayers pick up the tab. Sad.
"I'm going to be working for you, I'm not going to have time to go play golf." ~Trump

https://trumpgolftrack.com

https://www.statista.com/chart/23464/estimated-num...
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Author: WiltonKnight   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 8:29 AM
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It's great!! the Taxpayer PUNISHMENT.

Even better: Corporate and SAUDI and PUTIN and other entities spending money at Mar o Lago and other Trump properties.


Hee hee.

You Sheeple earned it.
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Author: UpNorthJoe 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 8:42 AM
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And isn't there a big push by Trump admin to eliminate remote work ?
Doesn't he want all Federal employees back in the office ?
Doesn't leadership start at the top ?
Show them all how it's done Trump, be a leader. ( ya, right )

Honestly, about the best we can hope for is that Trump spends every day of his
term golfing. It'll make him happy, as he grifts the taxpayers for hundreds of
$Millions in charges to stay at his properties. And he hopefully will be too busy
cheating on his score to dream up any type of "policy" that will screw the Country
over.
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Author: g0177325 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 9:25 AM
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And isn't there a big push by Trump admin to eliminate remote work ?

For Trump, the presidency is more of a "no show job" or "no work" job:

A no-show job or a fictitious employment is a paid position that ostensibly requires the holder to perform duties, but for which no work, or even attendance, is actually expected. The awarding of no-show jobs is a form of political or corporate corruption.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-show_job
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Author: AlphaWolf   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 9:42 AM
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Personally, I think we should be encouraging Trump to play golf everyday.

Trump's golf trips cost American taxpayers approximately $142 million, with $59 million spent on trips to Mar-a-Lago alone.

A real bargain considering the damage he does while playing president.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 10:17 AM
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Trump's golf trips cost American taxpayers approximately $142 million, with $59 million spent on trips to Mar-a-Lago alone.

I'm sure DOGE will be all over this terrible waste of taxpayer money.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 12:52 PM
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A real bargain considering the damage he does while playing president.

LOL…youseguys are scraping the bottom of the barrel to find something to complain about
President Trump when Biden spent 40% of his four years in office on vacation and the other
60% spent in lala land.

I wonder how many millions, billions? it will cost the American taxpayer for President Trump to rid our Country of the murderers, rapist, gang members and the illegal aliens Biden invited into our Country thinking they would all become obedient democrat voters.

This is the main reason why Trump won the election.
The democratic party is without a leader
and have no idea how to get out of the quagmire they created.

Biden? looking for a nursing home.
Kamala? looking for a job.
Obama? last I heard there is trouble in paradise and maybe a divorce?
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Author: Iampops 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 2:59 PM
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Look at the crime rates for undocumented immigrants vs. naturalized citizens:

https://www.ojp.gov/library/publications/comparing...
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Author: Iampops 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 3:15 PM
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More on declining crime rates with increased immigration:

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/researc...
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 3:19 PM
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Look at the crime rates for undocumented immigrants vs. naturalized citizens: - Iampops


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I did look and I figure this is the damning information you wanted to make sure the MAGA's knew:

The study found that undocumented immigrants had substantially lower crime rates than native-born citizens and legal immigrants across a range of felony offenses. Relative to undocumented immigrants, U.S.-born citizens are over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes, 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes, and over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes.

So what's your point. Is it that the violent criminal illegals that we are deporting should e allowed to stay because.... statistics?

Something else?
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Author: g0177325 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 3:32 PM
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Trump golfs while Democracy burns. MAGA!
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 3:40 PM
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Look at the crime rates for undocumented immigrants vs. naturalized citizens:

We are in the strange, yet indisputably true position….. that if we deport all the immigrants, we will see a statistical rise in the crime rate of our own country.

Unless we only deport the bad hombres, of course. But who believes that?

Yesterday, ICE detained a bunch of Navajos in Arizona.

Smooth move, there..
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 3:48 PM
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Look at the crime rates for undocumented immigrants vs. naturalized citizens:


Your articulate is five years old. Date Published December 2020

These criminals came in under Biden’s invite.
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Author: Iampops 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 4:01 PM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-immigrat...

And we are already arresting brown skinned people who committed no offense at all.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 4:07 PM
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So what's your point. Is it that the violent criminal illegals that we are deporting should e allowed to stay because.... statistics?

Something else?


There's a dishonest framing at work here.

The percentage of illegal immigrants that are criminals is...100%. As in, they've all chosen to break the laws of the United States.

The rest of it is just how much and to what degree.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/28/2025 4:20 PM
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And we are already arresting brown skinned people who committed no offense at all.

There are plenty of Trump voters who will think this is just fine. Racism is alive and well in the erstwhile Republican Party.
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Author: Aussi   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/29/2025 10:42 AM
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So what's your point. Is it that the violent criminal illegals that we are deporting should e allowed to stay because.... statistics?


Interesting that you don't see the foolishness of your statement. How many times in your previous posts said "but what about Biden, or democrat or liberals etc..

Do comparisons only work when they favor your argument?

Aussi
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Author: Lambo   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/29/2025 2:01 PM
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So what's your point. Is it that the violent criminal illegals that we are deporting should e allowed to stay because.... statistics?

Something else?


Please deport criminals first, like you said you would.

SNIP Trump deported 200 Colombians. None were criminals, Colombian officials say.

Among the deportees who arrived back home Tuesday in Colombia were two pregnant women and more than 20 children.

...Among the more than 200 deportees were two pregnant women and more than 20 children, Colombian officials said after the flights landed.

“They are not criminals,” Luis Gilberto Murillo, Colombia’s foreign minister, said in a video statement posted on X. “Being a migrant is not a crime.” SNIP

But Trump says: “These are murderers. These are people that have been as bad as you get. As bad as anybody you’ve seen,” he told reporters Friday. “We’re taking them out first.”

And I've shown before that being unlawfully present the first time is a misdemeanor, not a felony, coming back after being deported is a felony. Unless there's a new EO on that. :)

So Trumpolina isn't doing what he says. Unbelievable, eh?


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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Date: 01/29/2025 2:03 PM
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And I've shown before that being unlawfully present the first time is a misdemeanor,

LOL. So you're argument is that being an illegal isn't a really bad crime but still a crime?

Yeah. Run with that.
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Author: ptheland   😊 😞
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Date: 01/29/2025 2:38 PM
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Among the deportees who arrived back home Tuesday in Colombia were two pregnant women

Gotta get those preggo's out before they pop and we have more anchor babies. That's the biggest crime of all.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/29/2025 3:33 PM
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SNIP Trump deported 200 Colombians. None were criminals, Colombian officials say.

It's mostly for show and the low info MAGAs will eat it up.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/29/2025 3:58 PM
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Trump deported 200 Colombians. None were criminals,

Illegal aliens are criminals. They broke our laws.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=1IrDrB...

Great minds think alike..Clinton->Trump
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/29/2025 8:35 PM
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Among the deportees who arrived back home Tuesday in Colombia were two pregnant women and more than 20 children.
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And I've shown before that being unlawfully present the first time is a misdemeanor, not a felony, coming back after being deported is a felony. Unless there's a new EO on that. :)

So Trumpolina isn't doing what he says. Unbelievable, eh? - Lambo


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You are forgetting that there are 1.4M immigrants who have completed their judicial review and the court ordered them to leave but they stayed anyway. ICE is rounding up these illegals too and it is not surprising there are women and children among the deportees. Not surprising at all.

Here are some numbers absolutely manufactured by Fox News because they hate migrants too.

Nearly 40,000 Chinese nationals are among more than 1.4 million noncitizens who have deportation orders but who are not currently in Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention, according to new figures obtained by Fox News.

The numbers show that there are currently 1,445,549 foreign nationals who are on ICE’s non-detained docket and have final orders of removal as of Nov. 24, 2024.

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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Date: 01/29/2025 9:18 PM
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You are forgetting that there are 1.4M immigrants


Nope. That's just a distraction. Y'all assured us there were criminals on the military plane flights that Colombia objected too. Then when they are not criminals, you say it isn't surprising. But - your Fox figures - at 75 a planeload that's 19,274 plane flights. If there are 10 plane flights a day that's 1928 days, which will take 5 years without any days off.

The military flights are more expensive than the civilian flights which were $8,750 a piece for a total $ 168,647,500. The military flights will cost more than that. I've seen figures I don't believe on the cost of the military plane flights - I won't go there.

That's not surprising either Mike.

What it looks like is we're deporting the low hanging fruit, the easy ones to catch, and not concentrating on the criminals. YMMV.
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Among the deportees who arrived back home Tuesday in Colombia were two pregnant women

Gotta get those preggo's out before they pop and we have more anchor babies. That's the biggest crime of all. - pete


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ICE is also arresting and deporting illegal immigrants who have completed their judicial review, were ordered to leave, but did not.

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Author: Lambo   😊 😞
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ICE is also arresting and deporting illegal immigrants who have completed their judicial review, were ordered to leave, but did not

This is what's on USA.gov:

An immigration court of the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) hears the related case.

If a judge rules that the deportation should proceed, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) carries out a removal order.

Before removal is carried out, you might be able to leave the U.S. at your own expense. This is known as voluntary departure. Read how voluntary departure works.


So is ICE so understaffed they can't pick up the subject and complete the removal? There also are some appeal procedures - how many are on appeal?

The logistics of this operation are staggering and can't be met currently.

And every day more people come across the border.


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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Date: 01/29/2025 9:54 PM
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>>Trump deported 200 Colombians. None were criminals,<<

Illegal aliens are criminals. They broke our laws. - LM


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Especially the ones who have had their day in court, ordered to leave, but did not.

And some may not be criminals themselves but are family members who are keeping the family unit together when one or more them is being legally deported for other reasons.

The liberals ignore these categories because it doesn't fit their narrative.


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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Then when they are not criminals - Lapsody

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Then we will just have to disagree. I think that if you have a valid deportation order issued by a court, AND you stay anyway, that make you a criminal even if you were not one prior to the judges order.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Date: 01/29/2025 11:18 PM
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Then we will just have to disagree. I think that if you have a valid deportation order issued by a court, AND you stay anyway, that make you a criminal even if you were not one prior to the judges order.

But Mike, you haven't shown that anyone on that plane had a deportation order AND stayed. Why didn't ICE remove them when they were in court and the judge ordered their removal? So your rebuttal isn't on point - it's almost valid by itself - but it isn't about the people on the planes- my initial point. A subsequent point is it looks like you're going after what is easiest to grab - not criminals. And you obfuscate on that point by the assumption that what could be a misdemeanor is a crime. It doesn't become a crime because we want it to be. There's no proof they were criminals, and I doubt if the kids were.

valid deportation order issued by a court, AND you stay anyway, that make you a criminal even if you were not one prior to the judges order.

That'll be a good exercise. Why don't you research and find out if what you are saying is true, that it is a crime and exactly when it becomes a crime. Adios! :)
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Author: Lambo   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump golfed...
Date: 01/30/2025 1:36 AM
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Illegal aliens are criminals. They broke our laws. -

It depends LM. I've read that the first time it's a misdemeanor, but if they're deported and come back, it becomes a felony. So why doesn't ICE pick them up when they're ordered to depart? So I'm not sure they are a criminal the first time, but the second time - yes.
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