Dope1....

I agree with you in philosophy on this one AND in real life but.....

Take the people of sitesl ike this or TMF out of the picture - these are smart, saavy people.


Liberals have won - we now have a populace that is more and more clue impaired every day. Personal finance is one of their biggest weaknesses.

They need babysitting for retirement.

Social Security is just that.

And it's out of the hands of Woke Goldman Sachs and it's worked so far.

This is like ACA and Medicare - we can lose our asses electorally over it AND lose on policy - or we can get behind a solution and move on. BTW older folks vote for us.

We pay taxes.

We got into deficit for all sorts of defense shit. For wars not ours.

It's time for a a payroll tax increase.

AND - start with upper incomes first -- as in wherever FICA stops now i think it's around 180L - see the Greedy 401K liberals squeal like stuck pigs.

We save Social Security - THEY protect "the rich".

either way, Medicare, Medicaid, ACA - i know it's imperfect but it's one of those things that keeps us First World.

United Health and Goldman own waaaay too much of my ass and yours.