But that observation is very different from what you've been arguing in this thread.


I haven't argued much in this thread because none of you will admit to there actually being any kind of problem in Portland. You folks are sitting there - contra to evidence - and denying any problems at all.

Just last night, more fighting and two more arrests:
katu.com - Arrests made outside ice facility in portland police charge individuals with assault immigration custom enforc

PORTLAND, Ore. (KATU) — Overnight, Portland Police say they made two arrests outside of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facility in south Portland.

With more video:
X (Twitter): Brandi Kruse on X: "BREAKING: Clash outside ICE facility in Portland as crowd refuses to clear driveway." / X

BREAKING: Clash outside ICE facility in Portland as crowd refuses to clear driveway.

This goes on day after day and yet for some reason folks want to pretend it doesn't.

Hey, whatever floats everyone's boat.

You're doing the thing again, where you try and narrow the debate to one minor point and remove any debate room your opponent has...that's certainly your right, but there has been much more than June 15th going on. The scene I've posted above plays out much of the time down there and every time Antifa blocks the driveway they're interfering with federal officers as well as disturbing the peace.

Hence the Guard troops.

I'm not debating in this thread. People screamed "yOu GoT No eViDeNcE" and when evidence is posted...the same folks pretend they don't see it.

The people who are disagreeing with you aren't being irrational or malevolent.

The people who disagree with me are denying facts. It's that simple.

Here, I'm going to give you something. Portland isn't a war zone.

Now, let's see if you can reciprocate: Portland also isn't peaceful. The truth is down the middle someplace. All Kotek needs to do is clear out the morons who are actively interfering with the federal agents who are trying to do their jobs but she won't do that. Instead there's this level of pretending that what's going on is "free speech" (when it often involves rock throwing and attempts to breach federal buildings).