I think you're missing the point of the conversation, here. The premise is that people place a different priority on the deportation of people who are genuinely violent criminals (the murderers) and the people who have done something wrong but are otherwise generally decent folks. The folks that Newt Gingrich wants to have a "national conversation" about (see below link). You might place very little value on trying not to completely disrupt the lives of the people who are otherwise generally decent folks - the exercise we're engaging in is to try to acknowledge that not everyone shares that perspective on how much to weigh that, and try to articulate your arguments within the balancing framework that they have.

No, I fully understand the point of the conversation. It's just that your framing starts from a position that assumes wrongdoing on one side of the equation while completely absolving the other side of any responsibility. I'm not willing to grant that room.

If the democrats and folks on this board want Dreamers dealt with a certain way or want some kind of expanded work permits or even a general amnesty, then fine, that can be debated. But this 'framework' idea neglects the fact(s) that

A) For 4 years the border was wide open and Biden let in millions of people who shouldn't be here, and
B) We have laws on the books that ICE is out there enforcing...as is their responsibility.

B) requires that the mess introduced by A) be cleaned up. Sanctuary jurisdictions - who always magically escape any blame or root causality in these debates - are the proximal cause of the riots and violence. For some reason democrats want to wave their hands at their inability to come to grips with their collective responsibility for creating the conditions we're living in now (actually, the reason is quite clear).