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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: albaby1 SILVER
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Subject: Re: The Deal with Iran. Largely sucks.
Date: 06/17/26 3:57 PM
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It's ass. Once something hits that level, it pretty much doesn't matter because all of them are covered with hair and dingleberries.

Then no deal can ever be anything other than ass.

I think it's now pretty clear that the JCPOA represented an incredibly adept piece of deal-making- in that the Obama administration was able to extract far better terms from Iran just by maneuvering around the negotiating table than Trump was able to get after actually going to war with them.

Trump's already given away most of the carrots in the JCPOA even before they sit down to negotiate JCPOA Part II. All the asset unfreezing, the most important sanctions relief - all of it offered up even before the parties get to the table to talk about nukes.

Iran will never agree to anything that Dope1 doesn't think is ass. So the only options are to either invade them with ground troops or let them have nukes if they want them. Sanctions won't stop them from getting nukes. Threats of war won't stop them from getting nukes. Actually going to war with them, but without a major invasion with ground troops, can't stop them from getting nukes. The only way to stop them from getting nukes is to get them to either agree to not have nukes (which will always be ass), or invade.

Since we're not invading, it's either let them have nukes or have a JCPOA-like deal.

Which do you prefer, Dope1? Which is the less "ass" outcome - they have an unrestricted nuclear program (but are under sanctions), or we have something like the JCPOA? We now know there is no third option, since we're never going to invade with ground troops.
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