OK albaby1 I forgot this is the internet and you're one of those folks who can never admit to being wrong about anything.

You win.

Schumer WON!!!!


Feel better now? Lol

No. Perhaps you take a different approach, but I don't participate in online discussions for the lolz or to "win" - but to actually have conversations with people.

I genuinely want to know what the proposal was that Republicans seem to think was a $1.5 trillion counteroffer from Schumer, or if not from Schumer than from enough Democrats (or Democratic leadership) to be the actual Democratic Party position.

I like talking to Republicans and conservatives on these boards because it helps me understand what ideas and beliefs are prevalent among Republicans and conservatives - and honestly I had no idea that this was a thing that conservatives actually believed was the Democratic position until you mentioned it. I presume that at a minimum there was some Democrat that put out a "wish list" type of budget that they think would be better for the country than what the GOP passed - every single Congressbeing, Republican or Democrat, is out there messaging the shutdown to some degree, and I don't doubt that some of them decided to put out what they think the budget should be. But I had no idea that conservatives might be trying to convince themselves that this was what the Democrats were insisting on.

So I genuinely would love to find what it was that sparked all the GOP leaders to do this messaging. I actually would much rather if you could point me to it, rather than be snarky about Schumer or me "winning."