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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: zeelotes 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: OT: so you want an index
Date: 07/06/24 3:23 PM
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Jim wrote: If you do find yourself still long at a big pointy bear market bottom, whether it was a slow predictable bear or a sudden surprise plunge, as soon as you think the bottom is in it's a fabulous time to overweight small caps till about 14 months from the bottom.

This is good advice... most of the time. There is a caveat. The amount of forward returns are very much tied to the degree of drawdown in the previous bear market.

These are the dates I employed for testing this:

10/12/1990	BULL
11/11/1991 BEAR
10/8/1998 BULL
11/7/1999 BEAR
10/9/2002 BULL
11/8/2003 BEAR
3/9/2009 BULL
4/8/2010 BEAR
3/23/2020 BULL
4/22/2021 BEAR
10/12/2022 BULL
11/11/2023 BEAR


This shows the returns and stats for this whole period with a hold of from ten to one-hundred and twenty stocks:

# to Hold  ROI        CAGR    GSD    Sharpe  DDD3   BBW    Stock  % of Time  Drawdown
10 47098.89% 20.03% 22.64 0.84 3.27% 6.35 72% 19.28% -35.78%
20 53841.65% 20.50% 20.15 0.94 3.89% 5.55 74% 19.28% -40.81%
30 50326.01% 20.26% 18.89 0.98 2.87% 7.37 73% 19.28% -38.62%
40 56227.95% 20.66% 18.16 1.03 2.00% 10.45 76% 19.28% -37.85%
50 55959.08% 20.64% 17.8 1.05 1.82% 11.49 76% 19.28% -34.72%
60 54282.88% 20.53% 17.52 1.06 1.74% 11.98 76% 19.28% -32.33%
70 51616.77% 20.35% 17.25 1.06 1.72% 12.04 77% 19.28% -32.03%
80 45528.37% 19.91% 17.07 1.05 1.81% 11.16 77% 19.28% -31.90%
90 41070.91% 19.54% 16.86 1.04 1.84% 10.83 76% 19.28% -31.94%
100 46220.05% 19.96% 17.56 1.02 1.89% 10.8 76% 19.28% -31.60%
110 45941.41% 19.94% 17.22 1.04 1.90% 10.76 77% 19.28% -30.61%
120 42208.94% 19.64% 16.9 1.04 1.89% 10.62 77% 19.28% -29.59%


The best CAGR goes to the portfolio of forty stocks. Here are the returns for each hold:

Date        Signal  P  % G/L    Dow ROI
10/12/1990 BUY L 38.98% 26.87%
10/8/1998 BUY L 55.70% 38.63%
10/9/2002 BUY L 177.72% 33.90%
3/9/2009 BUY L 831.67% 66.90%
3/23/2020 BUY L 337.23% 81.88%
10/12/2022 BUY L 6.40% 17.55%


Notice that from the most recent bear market bottom small caps have significantly under-performed.

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