I can do nothing but insult this entire board for the next decade and still not catch up in volume to libs here.

So? That still doesn't mean you're not insulting people, and it means you're not going to get any substantive responses in return.

But what you're forgetting is that I couched my statement as democrat ideas are the sandwich thing:

So? That wasn't my point. I didn't say you called me a name. If want a substantive debate about policy ideas, then deriding the policy ideas out of hand isn't going to get that. "Microwave sardine sandwich Marxism" is just name-calling directed at the ideas (many of which had nothing to do with Marxism). If you were to ask more details about these ideas, try to find out why another person thinks they would work or teasing out differences between what different parts of the party think...that would get you a substantive comment.

Again, clean up your side of the aisle.

I just had a thread where I tried to explain to "my side" of the aisle why it was necessary and beneficial to have a constructive conversation with people whose ideas they might disdain. Literally within the last few days. I think you participated in it.

They lament that that people aren't moving away from right-wing populism; you lament that no one engages in constructive discussion of policy matters. There's an opportunity to change those dynamics.