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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Hillary!...gets it (kind of) right
Date: 11/14/23 5:56 PM
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Never though I'd see myself type that. But Hillary! Clinton, First of Her Name, Defender of Democracy, gets an issue...somewhat right.

theatlantic.com - Hamas israel ceasefire humanitarian pause gaza
https://archive.is/HYIXi

Hamas Must Go
The terror group has proved again and again that it will sabotage any efforts to forge a lasting peace.

By Hillary Rodham Clinton


(And by "go" she means, "Their guts stomped into a million gut fragments").

For some reason she invokes Obama at the top of her piece as if that amplifies her point - it doesn't, he's responsible for much of the foul-ups and chaos in the Middle East as any human being alive - but she invokes His Holy Presence anyway. Probably because she knows what she's about to say will infuriate the base of her party:

That is why I am convinced Hamas must go. On October 7, these terrorists killed babies, raped women, and kidnapped innocent civilians. They continue to hold more than 200 hostages. They have proved again and again that they will not abide by cease-fires, will sabotage any efforts to forge a lasting peace, and will never stop attacking Israel.
Hamas does not speak for the Palestinian people. Hamas deliberately places military installations in and below hospitals and refugee camps because it is trying to maximize, not minimize, the impact on Palestinian civilians for its own propaganda purposes. The humanitarian crisis in Gaza is heartbreaking—and every death means more blood on Hamas’s hands.


Where she gets it wrong is the usual tenet of modern progressivism to fail to comprehend that not every culture shares their "progressive values". In Gaza kids are taught to hate Jews and to dream about murdering every one of them they kind find. That's hardly that Palestinian and Israeli parents may say different prayers at worship but they share the same hopes for their kids—just like Americans, just like parents everywhere. No, not at all like parents everywhere.

But still. A piece like this from a democrat of her stature shouldn't be called out for being remarkable, but those are the times we find ourselves in.

Note: My original title of the post was "Hillary!...gets it 100% right but as you read the whole thing you understand that no, she doesn't get a lot of it right. Still, the bar for her is pretty low and thus the thread.

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