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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: New defense partnership with Indonesia announced
Date: 04/15/26 7:44 PM
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In the ships thread I mentioned the SURTASS purchase. Those are vital capabilities. Submarines are vital defenders of the sea lanes...or deniers of it.

China is prepping for extensive use of subs to defend their commercial ships:

reuters.com - China is mapping ocean floor it prepares submarine warfare with US

China is conducting a vast undersea mapping and monitoring operation across the Pacific, Indian and Arctic oceans, building detailed knowledge of marine conditions that naval experts say would be crucial for waging submarine warfare against the United States and its allies.

Note the presence of the Arctic ocean.

In one example, the Dong Fang Hong 3, a research vessel operated by Ocean University of China, spent 2024 and 2025 sailing back and forth in the seas near Taiwan and the U.S. stronghold of Guam, and around strategic stretches of the Indian Ocean, ship-tracking data reviewed by Reuters shows. In October 2024, it checked on a set of powerful Chinese ocean sensors capable of identifying undersea objects near Japan, according to Ocean University, and visited the same area again last May. And in March 2025, it criss-crossed the waters between Sri Lanka and Indonesia, covering approaches to the Malacca Strait, a critical chokepoint for maritime commerce.
According to the university, the ship was carrying out mud surveys and climate research. But a scientific paper co-written by Ocean University academics shows it has also conducted extensive deep-sea mapping. Naval-warfare experts and U.S. Navy officials say the type of deep-sea data being collected by the Dong Fang Hong 3 – via mapping and placement of sensors in the ocean – is giving China a picture of the subsea conditions it would need to deploy its submarines more effectively and hunt down those of its adversaries.


The deal with Indonesia is a part of the broader strategy of containment and in putting the US near all the world's choke points and energy sources as well.

So far

Panama Canal - check
Venezuela - check
Persian Gulf - in progress
Straits of Malacca - check

We're going to probably have to mend a fence or two with Canada and build some Arctic base way up north as another listening post in addition to beefing up Alaska.
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