Ok but Third Way--- the Corporate Democrats -- (yes, Club 401K is big with Democrats....).....

Are you saying the Clinton Biden Obama Presidencies are almost the same as Bush and Trump?

What about any signature legislations? Was Clinton's health portability, or Obama's ObamaCare--- or Biden's INfrastructure----just like you would have gotten under Trump or Reagan?

Also, Obama, Clinton, Biden ---"3rd way" Democrats has a total 5 Presidential Terms.

Did you prefer Ruth Ginsburg ? Affordable Care Act? OR do you prefer Trump and W legislation?

Hint: 3rd way won elections and you got SOMETHING from it.

Oatmeal is better than no meal sometimes.

Sometimes, grown ups have to decide on a direction and get the best they can versus just pontificating and hoping.

But the good news is----as things get shittier, I've said for years the Socialists will rise - - just like MAGA did.

Which is fine if it works. I'm sure Big Corporations will let the Socialists get everything they want.

Let's not hope for a 3rd way Dem to WIN ---and get one of two big things done because that ---well we just can't have that .